The Monamy Family
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24 September 2013



On a previous page, here, the many genealogical details generously provided by Mr Terry Dowinton, of Guernsey, on 10 January, 2008, now over five years ago, were recorded in full detail. This page aims to take additional account of family information relating to Monamy life events in Jersey, aside from the departure of André Monamy, born c 1540, and his nephew Aaron Monamy, born c 1575, to Guernsey.

The initial sections below are a recapitulation of the information given on the earlier page, down to the first marriage of André Monamy, which possibly took place in Jersey, before the birth of his first child, Jacob, in Guernsey, on 14th November, 1565. An attempt is then made to reconcile the information gathered in 2008 with what has recently been collected from The Island Wiki. New information and comments are highlighted in blue.

Étienne Monamy: b 1516 ?, St Saviour, Jersey
Married: c 1537 ?
Benoiste Aubin: b 1512 ?, St Saviour, Jersey

These birth and marriage dates must be conjectural. Dates of death not known. Étienne translates into English as Steven: hence Steven's son, fils Estienne, in will..

Étienne & Benoiste were parents of:

Perronelle Monamy: b 1539? Jersey
André Monamy: b 1540 ? Jersey
Clement Monamy: St Saviour, Jersey
Beneste Monamy: 1549-1631
Another daughter: ?

Sibling details come from the will of André Monamy, transcribed below. Summary from notes by Col de Guérin, 1927. Beneste Monamy is recorded as marrying Nicolas Ahier, 1553-1623. Conjectural daughter married to Gagnepain, since André mentions his nephew, Edward Gagnepain.


Click on highlighted names for marriages and further descendants.

"André Monamy, according to the Register of St Peter Port married first, 29th June 1572 Elizabeth Perrin who seems to have died without children. He married secondly, 17th November 1577, Bertranne, daughter of Nicolas Estur and Marie de la Marche, (eldest daughter of John de la Marche, Jurat and Barbe Neant), who married secondly John Fautrart, Jurat, son of Thomas. André Monamy made his will on the 2nd March 1590/1 in the parish of the "Castell" Guernsey, and it seems to have been proved before the Court Probate, London and translated from the French by Denis le Blancq, Notary Public, London 30th July 1591. (Hopper, MSS, British Museum 30188, fol. 350. Court Probate, London, St Barbe)." From notes by Col de Guérin, 1927.

2008. With the discovery of three children born between 1565 and 1568 in Guernsey, to an unnamed mother and a father named André Monamy, it now seems likely that André was married three times. First, perhaps in Jersey, before 1565; second, in 1572; third, in 1577. See below.

Below is a transcription, with added punctuation, of André Monamy's will. He would have died between making his will, which is dated 2nd March 1590, old style, ie presumably 1591, and the date it was proved, 30th July 1591.



Will of Andree Monamy fils Estienne

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER and of the sonne and of the holie ghoste Amens. The second daye of the monthe of Marche a thousand ffive hundred fower score and tenne. I, subscribed Andrew Monamy Stevens son, a Marchante of the Isle of Jersey of the parishe of Sainte Saviour, and at the present dwelling in the parish of the Castell in the Isle of Guernsey, beyng sound of my bodie and well advised of my minde and understandinge, considering that there is nothing more certeyne than the deathe, and nothinge more uncerteyne than the laste howre, thoughte good by reason [], after having called upon the name of the Lord, presentlie to make my testamente and deliberation of my laste will. [] That I recommend my soule unto oure [] god and father, my Creator, prayinge hym to blott oute my synnes and offences, and to receive me with the number of his poore faithfull Servanntes and [] into the kingdom of heaven, at my dayes ende, whenever yt shall please the Lord to call me out of this poore and miserable worlde, in his name and to [] the favour of his sonne, Jesus Christ oure lord, my onlie Saviour and Redeemer.

And as touching my Bodie, I desire same to be buried and committed into the earth in the ordinarie place, where so laye and rest the Bodies of the Christians attending the day of the general Resurrection. As concerning the goods which god has bestowed upon me in this world, I do make and constitute for my sole and onlie executors my children, [] the one as farr as the other, to whom I bequeathe all my movable goodes, after that my wife shall have had and taken her portion and [] parte as of righte unto her [] apperteyne. And that my giftes and Legaceys [beath?] performed as hereafter followeth. And firstlie I bequeathe to the poore of the parish of Sainte Savioure in the Isle of Jersey, fortie shillings sterlinge. Moreover I bequeathe to my brother Clement Monamy, my gowne beyinge blacke faced with taffeta. Moreover I bequeathe to my sister Parnell Monamy, the cloathe towards a blacke gowne. Moreover I bequeath to my nephue Edward Gagnepain, ten shillings strelnige. And I pray and desire my [] [] in god Mr Peter de la Beauvoir and Mr William le Marchant to be a helpe unto my children in and all thinges [] it may be after and according to this my last will. And by this my perfect testament So revoke all other testaments which I have made before this date, of the date hereof, beyng annullated and of noe force and strengthe. And for Approbation of this testamente hereunto I have put my name and marke in the presence of John Bonamy [?] and his sonne Richarde. By me, subscribed Andrew Monamy, and [] with a Seale in [so harde] way under printed upon. ../..

Lex gallica in Anglicam linguam conuersum et inventum cum suo originali testamento substancialiter concordare per me promisie Le Blancq [Ho] publicum Londini Commorantem Regia authoritate Admissa atque Furetu Actum Londini hoc die xxx Mentis July an Domini 1591

Ultimo die mentis Julii Anno Domini Milli [] emanavit [] Petro Beauvoir et Willimo Le Marchant

Administrands bono sura et Duranti minori etate Andre Monamy   Elie Monamy   Marie Monamy   et   Elizabethe Monamy liberorum etc et executorum in [] testamente notat [] etc ni persona Galfridi [] notary publici procuratorio Furat.


fils Estienne --- Steven's son

André Monamy: b 1540 ? St Saviour, Jersey
Married 1st:
Wife's name unknown:

André Monamy apparently moved from Jersey to Guernsey by 1565, at the latest. His birth date is conjectural. According to de Guérin, he bought a substantial house in 1569, which is still standing.

André Monamy's two other wives and his descendants are recorded on the earlier page.
This page looks at the families of his sister, Perronelle, and brother, Clement.

Perronelle Monamy: b abt 1539 Jersey
Married: 1555 8/9 Jersey
Oliver Vivian or Olivier Vincent

Perronelle's name is written Parnell in the will of Andree, fils Estienne.

This marriage used to be recorded on the IGI, before that site disappeared. No firm sources given. Assuming Perronelle to have been at least 16 when she married, she would have been born abt 1539. An unverified report says she was buried on 23 August 1602.
The Island Wiki says her husband's surname was Vincent.

More needs discovering about Perronelle Monamy and her husband. It seems odd that she is referred to in her brother's will as Parnell Monamy, since she had been married in 1555 to Olivier Vivian, or Vincent. Some mystery here ? In some parts, notably Scotland, there is a tradition, however, of married women retaining their parental names, even after marriage. She appears to have had at least one child, Jean, born 6 Jan, 1562. The father is named as Olivier Vivian, and the godparents were "Clement Monamy et Jean Dorey." This Clement Monamy must have been the child's uncle, Perronelle's brother.

Clement Monamy: St Saviour, Jersey
Married:
Marie Ahier:

Birth date of Clement Monamy unknown.
No firm records yet known for this marriage, which must have taken place in Jersey.

The Ahier family seem to have been closely connected, since Clement's sister Beneste married a Nicolas Ahier.

Clement and Marie (Ahier) were the parents of:

Elizabeth Monamy:
Aaron Monamy:
Moyse Monamy:

No firm sources for these children, born in Jersey. Aaron, however, is known, or strongly believed, to have later moved to Guernsey, and to have been ordained.

The families in Jersey of Aaron and Moyse Monamy, set out below, were quite unsuspected by me before 2013, and have proved a signal revelation. In particular, my earlier confusion of Aaron, son of Clement, with his own son, ie Aaron, son of Aaron, after their joint move to Guernsey, is made apparent. For the married couple, Clement and Marie Monamy, circa 1575, to name their two sons Aaron and Moyse, has led readers to only one conclusion. One of my oldest friends immediately remarked, with total conviction, that these people could only have been Marranos. Since he is Jewish, his opinion carried weight. On reading some of Edgar Samuel's essays, however, the matter does not appear entirely simple, and requires further examination.

The mentions, in the listings below, of "Father", five times, and "Mother", once, under "Godparents", eludes and puzzles me. Otherwise the names of Soulmond, Dumaresque and Durell are interesting.

Date Child's name Father Mother Godparents
27.9.1597 Elizabeth Aaron Marthe Father, Thomas Soulmond
2.9.1599 Aaron Aaron Marthe Father, Salmon Journiaux
23.8.1601 Marthe Aaron Marthe Father, mother, Noel Le Gett
Date Child's name Father Mother Godparents
27.7.1597 Marie Moyse Marie Father, Hugh de Soulmond
25.2.1599 Moyse Moyse Marie Father, Collas Durell
29.1.1604 Moyse Moyse Marie Richard Dumaresque
22.12.1605 Clement Moyse -Pierre Fiot
29.11.1609 Aron Moisse -Jean Durell

Aaron Monamy: b Jersey
Married [1] 2: 1603 29/6 Guernsey
Esther Estur: b Nov 1566 or Jan 1586 ?

Aaron is known, or strongly believed, to have moved to Guernsey. He died Mar 1625, Guernsey. It is uncertain which of two possible Esther Esturs, born 20 years apart, became his most probably second, wife.

Aaron and Esther (Estur) were the parents of:

Jeanne Monamy: b 1604 25/3 Guernsey

Jeanne's mother, Esther Estur, must have died before 1618, when Aaron re-married. ? It now looks as though, on the earlier page, he was confused with his son, also named Aaron, shown below. Esther Estur need not have died in 1617.


Aaron Monamy: b Jersey Sept 1599 ?
Married 2 ?: 1618 9/12 Guernsey
Marie Ricart: born, say, 1600 ?

Marie Ricart, perhaps b abt [1595 ?], died Jul 1621 Guernsey. Her husband, Aaron, was only 19 when they married, so she was his first, and perhaps only wife.

Aaron and Marie (Ricart) were the parents of:

André Monamy: b Sep 1619 Guernsey
Married: 1640 6/5 Guernsey
Marie Hubert:

There are two possibilities for the parentage of Marie Hubert: 1. daughter of André Hubert and Elizabeth Lavenu baptized 9/3 1614; 2. daughter of Giles Hubert and Marie Troussey, baptized 20/2 1613.


     

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